Risky Business Podcast

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Risky Biz Soap Box: Why enterprise browsers are good, actually

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray talks to Island’s Bradon Rogers about security-focussed, enterprise browsers.

You can use Island to do stuff like grant third parties access to corporate applications on unmanaged devices in a not insane way – that’s a huge pain point for a lot of CISOs, and something that is bringing a lot of new customers through Island’s doors. Obviously for devices you do manage, you can roll Island out as your default enterprise browser. There are a lot of security benefits to doing that.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why enterprise browsers are good, actually
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Risky Business #729 -- Why patching faster won't save us

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover:

  • Iran-linked attacks on US water infrastructure
  • Why the ownCloud bug isn’t the end of the world
  • The D-Link 0day that… never existed?
  • In defence of Okta
  • Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Proofpoint. Ryan Kalember, Proofpoint’s EVP of Cybersecurity Strategy, is this week’s sponsor guest.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Mastodon if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #729 -- Why patching faster won't save us
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Risky Business #728 -- The Citrixbleed ransomware disaster

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover:

  • The Citrixbleed ransomware crisis
  • Why the FBI hasn’t arrested Scattered Spider members
  • DPRK is in your supply chains
  • Microsoft has a brainwave and buys a HSM
  • When civil war meets pig butchering
  • Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Airlock Digital. David Cottingham and Daniel Schell are this week’s sponsor guests.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Mastodon if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #728 -- The Citrixbleed ransomware disaster
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Why o365 and Google Workspace are a security liability

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this Soap Box podcast Patrick Gray talks to Material Security’s CEO and co-founder Abhishek Agrawal about the security problems inherent to modern productivity suites.

Does it make sense that threat actors can authenticate to o365 and Workspace accounts and clean them out entirely? Years of mail, years of files?

Material Security has built a product that tackles this issue. It can lock up email archives behind MFA challenges, redact PII from inboxes, better control files share via Google Drive and OneDrive, and just generally limit the damage a threat actor can inflict when they compromise a cloud productivity account.

Even if you’re not interested in buying a product to tackle this, we think this one is a great listen.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why o365 and Google Workspace are a security liability
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Risky Business #727 -- Mr Gray goes to Washington

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks through the news with Chris Krebs and Dmitri Alperovitch. They discuss:

  • The SEC enforcement action against Solarwinds’ CISO
  • The White House AI Executive Order
  • CitrixBleed exploitation goes wide
  • How Kaspersky captured some (likely) Five Eyes iOS 0day
  • Elon Musk’s Gaza Strip adventures
  • Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Greynoise. Andrew Morris, Greynoise’s founder and CEO, is this week’s sponsor guest. He talks about how Greynoise is using large language models to help them analyse massive quantities of malicious internet traffic.

Risky Business #727 -- Mr Gray goes to Washington
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Stairwell will offer platform to researchers

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this edition of the Soap Box we hear from Mike Wiacek and Eric Foster from Stairwell.

Stairwell makes a product that collects and analyses every executable file in your environment. You deploy file collectors to your systems and they forward all new files to Stairwell for manual and automated analysis. You can do a lot of really cool analysis once you have all that stuff in the same place.

But as you’ll hear, Stairwell is broadening out the use cases for its platform. You don’t want to forward files from every system? You don’t have to. It’s still very useful as an analysis platform. It’s sort of like VirusTotal, but private and with a bunch more bells and whistles. There’s also a bunch of sharing tools in the platform, which gives it a “social network for CTI nerds” flavour.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Stairwell will offer platform to researchers
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Risky Business #726 -- Okta owned while Cisco takes a massive L

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks through the news with Dmitri Alperovitch, NSA Cybersecurity director Rob Joyce and NSA CCC director Morgan Adamski. They discuss:

  • The Okta breach
  • 40-50k feral Ciscos
  • Why the http/2 protocol flaw is a real headache
  • The Ragnar Locker takedown
  • What the NSA CCC has been thinking about

This week’s show is brought to you by Socket. Socket’s founder Feross Aboukhadijeh joins us this week to talk about their actually-not-crazy use of large language models in their product.

Risky Business #726 -- Okta owned while Cisco takes a massive L
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Preventing MFA reset attacks

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Patrick Gray speaks to Yubico’s Jerrod Chong about how organisations can better verify the identities of users when performing MFA resets. In other words, how to not get MGM’d.

He also talks about the chain-of-trust issues inherent to synchronisable passkey implementations.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Preventing MFA reset attacks
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Risky Business #725 -- Microsoft knifes VBScript, passkeys the new default for Google accounts

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Lina Lau discuss the week’s security news. They cover:

  • Microsoft has killed VBScript
  • Google to make passkeys the new default sign-in method
  • MGM losses to exceed $100m
  • Clorox has a bad quarter
  • Why a bug in cURL could be really bad news
  • Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by KSOC. Jimmy Mesta, KSOC’s co-founder and CTO, is this week’s sponsor guest. He talks to us about how we can start applying real, actual IAM to Kubernetes environments.

Risky Business #725 -- Microsoft knifes VBScript, passkeys the new default for Google accounts
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Risky Business #724 -- Exploitation moves away from Microsoft, Google and Apple products

Presented by

Catalin Cimpanu
Catalin Cimpanu

News Editor

Claire Aird
Claire Aird

Newsreader

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover:

  • Ransomware crews target WS_FTP and Jetbrains servers
  • Global energy supply shapes up as big target
  • The Dossier Center drops another banger
  • Indian nationalists DDoS Canadian targets
  • A look at the Exim drama
  • Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Kroll Cyber. George Glass is this week’s sponsor guest.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Mastodon if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #724 -- Exploitation moves away from Microsoft, Google and Apple products
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