Risky Business Podcast

In this wholly sponsored Soap Box edition of the podcast Patrick Gray chats with Damien Lewke, the CEO and founder of Nebulock, about the future of threat hunting and detection.

Damien spent a decade in the EDR and MDR space before founding Nebulock in 2024. It started off as an AI-powered threat hunt platform but has evolved into a broader security data platform that can answer questions, drive hunts and drive detections.

This product is engineered around the idea that a lot of security is a data problem. So, if we accept this premise, how do we solve security? And how much of that solution is about agents, vs building a good graph? And if you’re going to build a good graph, do you want to build it for a person to use, or an agent to use?

This is truly a conversation for the security nerd’s nerd. Enjoy!

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On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and James Wilson discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They cover:

• Anthropic’s Fable 5 returning while OpenAI’s GPT-5.6 gets thrown in model jail
• Distillation, cheap tokens, and AI chat harvesting is an industry in China
• Edge becomes a lolbin via a new malicious extension
• An Iranian APT boss’s vacation in a beautiful place goes wrong
• Much, much more!

In this week’s sponsor interview Daf Stuttard and Katie Warren from Portswigger pop along to talk about how they built an AI security testing product that people would actually feel comfortable using.

This episode is also available on YouTube.

On this week’s show special guest co-host Rob Joyce joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. Rob served as an advisor to Donald Trump during his first term as president and also served at NSA for 34 years. While at the agency, Joyce led Tailored Access Operations (TAO), and later became NSA’s Director of Cybersecurity.

They cover:

• The surprisingly well done Fortibleed campaign
• Stolen Klue OAuth tokens lead to Salesforce data theft
• OpenAI wants to patch the planet
• runZero gets acquired by Accenture, congrats HD Moore!
• Much, much more!

This episode is also available on YouTube.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and James Wilson discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They cover:

• Anthropic’s Fable 5 and Mythos 5 get nuked by the US government four days after launch “because security”
• Why “guardrails” won’t keep the world safe from your AI doomsday machine
• The FISA 702 statute expired, but the spying can (probably) continue!
• NPM v12 delivers some protection against supply chain attacks, but not enough.
• Microsoft has a series of bugs that prevent Windows Update from … updating
• Much, much more!

This episode is also available on YouTube

On this week’s show special guest co-host Chris Wade, the founder of Corellium turned Cellebrite CTO, joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news.

They cover:

• Microsoft has repos owned, GitHub tokens popped, and a new 0day dropped on them
• Meanwhile, researchers are choosing full disclosure instead of engaging MSRC
• Meta’s AI support agent allowed a staggering 20,000 accounts to be stolen!
• Apple pulls Russia’s MAX messenger from the App Store and disables notifications
• Anthropic gives the public our first Mythos-class model but it won’t do cybersecurity work
• Stripe and Google Tag Manager used in eCommerce website hack campaign
• And much, much more!

This week’s show is brought to you by runZero. HD Moore, runZeros’ founder, drops by in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about the AI vibe shift. Everyone is very worried about getting owned all of a sudden, and it’s really changing the cybersecurity business.

This episode is also available on YouTube.

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Edward Wu, founder of Dropzone, about what AI is doing to detection, response and the SOC more generally.

Dropzone makes AI agents that conduct alert investigations in your SOC, but will the SOC as we know it even exist in the future?

Ed has a deep expertise in SOC tech, having previously led AI/ML detection engineering at Extrahop. This interview is a fantastic look at what the future may bring for detection and response professionals.

This episode is also available on YouTube

On this week’s show special guest co-host Andy Boyd joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. Andy is the CEO of REDLattice, which makes the Paragon “intelligence collection and reconnaissance” solution.

They cover:

• Adversaries are tracking US troop locations with commercially available location data
• A new Signal phishing campaign is going after message backups
• 404 Media is suing ICE to get its spyware contract with REDLattice (lol)
• Microsoft’s tone-deaf response to ‘never justifiable’ zero-day disclosures
• Mini Shai-Hulud pops up again just as Glassworm gets shattered
• Much, much more

This week’s episode is sponsored by Authentik, an open source identity platform that you can host yourself. In this week’s sponsor interview Authentik’s CEO Fletcher Heisler joins Patrick Gray to talk about how they’re keeping up with the bugpocalypse, and also the work they’re doing to support identities for AI agents.

This episode is also available on YouTube.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and James Wilson discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They cover:

• TeamPCP breached GitHub’s internal repos. Now what?
• Some absolute plonker glued Coruna to a hijacked npm package
• CISA is worried about about open source and wants third party submissions for KEV
• AI infrastructure is “systemically” insecure
• Much, much more

This week’s episode is sponsored by allowlisting vendor Airlock Digital. Airlock’s founders David Cottingham and Daniel Schell join Patrick Gray to talk about Microsoft briefly flagging DigitCert’s root certificate as malware. Fun!

This episode is also available on YouTube

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and James Wilson discuss the week’s cybersecurity news.

They cover:

• GitHub announced a possible breach
• CISA leaks important creds, keys in public repo
• Awful vulnerability in Bitlocker renders it useless without a PIN
• So. Many. Patches.
• Polish Government urges officials to ditch Signal for mSzyfr
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Thinkst’s founder, Haroon Meer, is this week’s sponsor guest. He joined James Wilson to talk about how doing “the basics” in security isn’t trivially easy.

This episode is also available on YouTube.

In this sponsored soap box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Toni de la Fuente, the founder of Prowler.

Prowler started off as a bunch of scripts in a trenchcoat, then became an open source cloud security tool, and it’s now a venture-funded cloud security business. In this interview Toni talks us through how AI is changing the game for him as an open source project owner, and as a vendor. In short, reports of the death of IT and security tooling at the hands of frontier models have been greatly exaggerated.

This episode is also available on Youtube.