Podcasts

In this podcast episode Brad Arkin joins James Wilson to discuss how defenders can get ahead of the late-running bugpocalypse. While we’re confident the offensive cybersecurity capabilities of frontier and open-weight LLMs are real, attackers don’t yet seem able to fully utilise them. This creates a window of opportunity for defenders to tackle the threat.

There are a few well-funded and seemingly overlapping industry efforts under way including Athena, Akrites, and Patch the Planet. But, as Brad says in this interview, there’s too much focus on fixing bugs and traditional vulnerability triage, and not enough on exploring how to make entire classes of vulnerabilities inert.

The NSA’s Tailored Access Operations team is back, India bans an app used to hack e-rickshaws, Accenture has another data breach, and a leak exposes a suspected Chinese cyber contractor.

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In this Risky Business sponsored interview, Tom Uren chats with Sublime Security Product Manager AJ Williams about how the company targets its AI use. Rather than throwing its AI agents at everything, Sublime gives them the time-consuming email security tasks that humans don’t want to do.

Its ASA (Autonomous Security Analyst) agent investigates suspicious and user-reported messages, while the ADÉ (Autonomous Detection Engineer) agent writes new detection coverage for attacks that slipped through.

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about a new US Supreme Court decision that puts the current EU-US data sharing agreement at risk. American intelligence collection efforts have been at the centre of legal challenges of these on-again off-again data transfer agreements, and if the current agreement were struck down it would cripple Section 702 collection from Europe.

They also discuss Canada’s effort to be more transparent about its active cyber operations, those that degrade and disrupt foreign adversaries.

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The DHS inspector general will investigate forced CISA reassignments, Canada hacked a ransomware gang, Taiwan charges two executives with helping Chinese hackers, and new vulnerabilities can disable Hoymiles solar panels.

In this wholly sponsored Soap Box edition of the podcast Patrick Gray chats with Damien Lewke, the CEO and founder of Nebulock, about the future of threat hunting and detection.

Damien spent a decade in the EDR and MDR space before founding Nebulock in 2024. It started off as an AI-powered threat hunt platform but has evolved into a broader security data platform that can answer questions, drive hunts and drive detections.

This product is engineered around the idea that a lot of security is a data problem. So, if we accept this premise, how do we solve security? And how much of that solution is about agents, vs building a good graph? And if you’re going to build a good graph, do you want to build it for a person to use, or an agent to use?

This is truly a conversation for the security nerd’s nerd. Enjoy!

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In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about why we haven’t seen an explosion of devastating hacks even though AI has been used to discover lots and lots of bugs.

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A European MP’s phone was infected by Pegasus spyware, Android drops its PIN guessing limit from 1,800 attempts to 20, Alibaba bans employees from using Claude at work, and there’s a new vulnerability in the Linux kernel.

FatFs bugs enable physical access attacks on industrial equipment, a clever password spraying attack bypasses M365 MFA, an AI agent is deploying ransomware in live attacks, and a webinar platform sues two security firms over bad IOCs.

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about Chinese AI labs stealing the special sauce of American AI models in ‘distillation attacks’. These attacks are fed by a grey market in which Chinese consumers buy access to American models, where one of the byproducts is logs of user requests and responses. These make wonderful inputs into distillation attacks and the whole market might be subsidised by Chinese AI Labs paying for these logs.

They also discuss the possibility that last year’s hack of Jaguar Land Rover was caused by a group of Russian hackers. Was it Russians? Was it state-directed or endorsed? Who knows, but even the possibility that it was has some benefits for the Russian state.

This episode is also available on YouTube