Snake Oilers 10 part 2: Do too many users have VPN access to your prod environment? There's another way!

A great chat with StrongDM, plus pitches from Rapid7 and f5 Networks...

In this edition of Snake Oilers Patrick speaks to:

  • Justin McCarthy of StrongDM

StrongDM makes a protocol proxy that you can use to provision production services (like Kubernetes and SQL access) to users without them requiring full VPN access to prod. This is very cool stuff, if you manage a large prod environment that’s suffering from VPN sprawl you’ll want to check this one out.

  • Nicholas Davis of Rapid7

Nicholas is the senior technical product manager for InsightIDR. InsightIDR is a SIEM/EDR play that integrates a bunch of stuff. These days Rapid7 is really emphasising the holistic nature of InsightIDR, rather than the endpoint part, and Nicholas joins the show to talk about that.

  • Preston Hogue of F5 Networks

F5 Networks recently acquired NGINX as a part of a push to become cloud-relevant. Their strategy is to allow for F5 security smarts to be inserted basically anywhere and anyhow you want. Preston joins the show to talk about that!

Links to our Snake Oilers sponsors are below!

Risky Biz Soap Box: Yubico's Jerrod Chong talks series 5 Yubikeys and what's next

Risky Business listeners can get a discount on them, too, which is nice...

These Soap Box podcasts are a wholly sponsored series of podcasts we do here at Risky.Biz, so everyone you hear on the Soap Box podcast paid to be here.

But that’s ok, because we’ve got some great sponsors. This podcast is brought to you by Yubico, makes of the Yubikey devices. These podcasts with Yubico have basically turned into an annual thing. Jerrod Chong is the Chief Solutions Officer at Yubico and he joined me for this conversation about what’s new in Yubico-land. They’ve launched some new stuff, including Yubikeys with lightning adapters for iOS devices, and Jerrod also talks about hardware 2FA moving increasingly to the mainstream.

If you’re reading this within 48 hours of this podcast going live, you can get yourself a $20 discount on any two of the new series 5 Yubikeys by visiting this link and using the code ‘Risky19’.

Risky Business #558 -- Trump targets Crowdstrike, Apple jailbreakers rejoice

All the week's big security news....

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

  • Apple jailbreakers partying in the streets
  • Donald Trump targets Crowdstrike over 4chan conspiracy nonsense
  • Ransomware absolutely everywhere this week
  • Horror-show VxWorks bugs are popping up in other stacks
  • OnApp fixes mother of all misconfigurations
  • More SIM card issues
  • Much, much more

In this week’s sponsor interview we chat with Mr Sandbox himself, VMRay’s Carsten Willems. He’s along to talk about VMRay’s involvement in a machine-learning bypass competition that happened at DEFCON earlier this year.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Snake Oilers 10 part 1: Richard Bejtlich talks Zeek plus pitches from Respond Software and PATH Networks

We let this one run long because it's full of goodness!

In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast host Patrick Gray speaks to:

  • Richard Bejtlich of Corelight

Richard talks about Zeek, formerly Bro, and how enterprises can use it to capture useful network information for analysis, forensics and detection purposes. Richard is an industry luminary and it’s a great interview.

  • Marshal Webb of PATH Networks

Marshal explains how new technology like eBPF and XDP mean it’s possible to build DDoS mitigation rigs out of commodity hardware. That means DDoS mitigation is about to get a whole lot cheaper, and PATH is in pole position in this soon-to-be disrupted market.

  • Chris Triolo from Respond Software

Respond Software makes a decision agent for the modern SOC. They are aiming to completely replace level 1 SOC analysts so those resources can be freed up to do higher-value work. They’re offering free live and retroactive trials of their software, and it definitely belongs in the “why not take it out for a spin” category.

Some links to the company websites and blogs are below!

Risky Business #557 -- 26 nations release cyber norms statement at UN

State-backed activity reaching fever pitch...

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

  • Tibetans targeted in mobile malware campaign
  • Iran denies cyber-attack nobody was asking about
  • More news from the Middle East
  • 26 nations open UN General Assembly with statement on cyber norms
  • Fedex sued over company’s NotPetya response, exec share sales
  • Why “quantum supremacy” isn’t a big deal. Yet.
  • Much, much more

In this week’s sponsor interview we talk to Cody Wood of Signal Sciences about http request smuggling. What it is and why it’s a nightmare to fix.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #556 -- US Treasury targets DPRK crews, more details on Ukraine power hack

Another big week of security news....

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

  • US Treasury targets DPRK APT crews
  • Russia owned FBI counter surveillance team radio comms
  • New details on 2016 attack against Ukraine power grid
  • US Government to sue Edward Snowden for memoir profits
  • Did RCMP intelligence director tip Phantom Secure on investigation?
  • Much, much more!

This week’s sponsor interview is with Casey Ellis of Bugcrowd. It’s an interesting chat with Casey this week. He was at the Billington cyber conference a couple of weeks ago and he had a bunch of interesting discussions there with people in the aerospace sector.

Between recent Black Hat presentations on 787 security and the trouble Boeing has had with it’s 737-MAX, software security and resiliency is all of a sudden on the agenda in aerospace. Casey drops by to talk about all of that.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #555 -- Bluekeep Metasploit module released, Paige Thompson pleads not guilty and more

Your weekly news round up with Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau...

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

  • Paige Thompson pleads not guilty to CapitalOne hack
  • German government probes FinFisher
  • Bluekeep Metasploit module dropped
  • DPRK samples hit VT, courtesy of our friends in the USA
  • Apple releases awful statement about mass exploitation of its devices
  • Much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Blackberry Cylance. In this week’s sponsor interview we’ll be talking about US Cybercommand dropping some sweet, sweet APT28 samples on VirusTotal back in May. We’ll talk a little bit about that malware, and also have a more general discussion about CYBERCOM VT drops with Cylance research staffers Steve Barnes and Josh Lemos.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Biz Soap Box: MITRE ATT&CK framework is now officially everywhere

A chat with Chris Kennedy of AttackIQ...

The Soap Box podcast series is a fully sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.Biz, and that means that everyone you hear in it paid to be featured.

This edition of the Soap Box podcast is brought to you by AttackIQ and in in it we talk to its CISO and VP of customer success Chris Kennedy. And we’ll be discussing a topic of that frankly should be talked about a bit more: the MITRE ATT&CK framework.

We also talk about attack simulation and which security controls are most commonly and catastrophically misconfigured. If you’re a CISO you’ll like this one.

Risky Business #554 -- Is there an iOS exploit glut?

Apple's mobile OS has a very bad week...

Alex Stamos is our news co-host this week. Patrick and Alex discuss all the week’s security news, including:

  • Mass exploitation of iOS devices by Chinese govt
  • Telegram moves to nix phone number enumeration “feature”
  • USA targeted Iranian maritime awareness system
  • Existence of Stuxnet mole revealed by Kim Zetter
  • @jack gets hacked
  • Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Michelle Price of AustCyber. AustCyber is the organisation here in Australia that aims to build out the Australian cyber security industry and skills base, and Michelle pops in this week to tell us all about the upcoming Australian Cyber Week.

Links to everything are below in the show notes.

Risky Business #553 -- Imperva's cloud WAF gets owned hard

PLUS: Fortinet and Pulse Security SSL VPNs, Webmin interfaces attacked in wild...

On this week’s show Adam Boileau and Patrick Gray discuss the week’s security news, including:

  • Fortinet, Pulse Security VPNs are being exploited in wild
  • Imperva’s cloud WAF gets colossally owned
  • US authorities fear ransomware attacks against election systems
  • Apple fixes re-introduced jailbreak bug
  • Telegram design choice puts HK protestors at risk
  • Researcher drops two 0days in Valve’s Steam client after bounty spat
  • Much, much more

This week’s sponsor guest is Ryan Kalember, EVP of cybersecurity strategy with Proofpoint. Ryan is stopping by this week to touch on a couple of topics. He’ll tell us why Proofpoint didn’t attribute a recent malware campaign targeting US utilities to APT10 despite there being some pretty APT10-like tradecraft used in that particular campaign.

He’ll also talk a bit about how thread hijacking is a giant pain in the ass. That’s where attackers take over a mailbox, then just jump right in replying to existing mail threads. Detecting that is hard, of course, because it’s internal mail. It’s a great little mixed bag interview.


Risky Biz Soap Box: Casey Ellis on " for hackers"

Bounty programs, yes, but skills matching the future for Bugcrowd and its ilk...

We used to think of companies like Bugcrowd as offering a very simple service: managed bug bounties. But these days that’s a bit too simplistic. All the “bounty” companies are offering more comprehensive and specific products these days. In this edition of the Soap Box podcast Bugcrowd CTO Casey Ellis joins the show to talk through what the future looks like in crowdsourced security. Matching individual hackers’ skills to individual gigs and launching new services like Bugcrowd for Marketplaces will be a big part of that future.

Risky Business #552 -- Guest host Alex Stamos on all the week's security news

Chinese disinformation, Bluetooth flaws, Apple sues Corellium and more...

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Alex Stamos discuss all the week’s news, including:

  • Confirmed: 30 companies affected by CapitalOne attacker
  • China info-ops booted off Twitter, Facebook
  • Real deal Bluetooth bugs
  • Apple re-introduces kernel bug, jailbreaks aplenty
  • Apple to sue Corellium for copyright infringement
  • DPRK gets its malware VT’d by CYBERCOM
  • Much, much more

Haroon Meer of Thinkst Canary is this week’s sponsor guest. We spoke to Haroon while he was in the USA, just before he was about to deliver a talk to USENIX all about “embracing hackiness”. Haroon thinks “hackiness” is a huge advantage for red teams, but that doesn’t mean blue teams can’t use the same hacky approaches to defence. It’s a typically great chat with Haroon. Links to everything discussed are below.

Feature Podcast: Inaction is escalatory

A fascinating conversation with former senior Pentagon cyber official Kate Charlet...

This podcast is brought to you by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, and it’s the second in a series of podcasts we’re doing that are all about cyber policy.

The Foundation funds a lot of interesting people and work in the cybersecurity space. So the idea behind this podcast series is pretty simple: we talk to Hewlett’s grant recipients, or experts in Hewlett’s network, about pressing policy issues and turn those conversations into podcasts. The whole idea is to get some policy perspectives out there among the Risky Business audience, which, funnily enough, includes a lot of policymakers.

In this podcast we’re speaking with Katherine Charlet. She currently serves as the director of the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Prior to joining Carnegie, Kate served as the deputy assistant secretary of defence for cyber policy, where she managed the development of US Department of Defence cyber policy and strategy, its development of cyber capabilities, and the expansion of its international relationships.

This conversation essentially covers what the state of affairs is when it comes to militaries and their actions in the cyber domain. It was only a few weeks ago that reports claimed the United States government launched a cyber attack against Iranian weapons systems. We’ll hear from Kate about what she thinks that all means, and then we’re going to talk about all sorts of stuff really – the blurring of the line between what warrants a law enforcement response versus a military response, what the path to this situation looked like, so on and so on. But I kicked things off by asking Kate to tell us what this concept of “defending forward” actually means. In the last couple of years we’ve heard that term bandied about by all sorts of people, but everyone seems to have a different definition. Here, Kate shares her more definitive definition.

Risky Business #551 -- Post Vegas edition, more news than we can handle

An amazing bunch of stories to get through...

Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover:

  • Follow ups on CapitalOne
  • Amazon EBS snapshots exposed
  • North Korea bags $2bn in cybercrime spree
  • Attempted Coinbase breach postmortem
  • Apple’s new research phones for bug hunters
  • APT41 busted moonlighting
  • Cloudflare finally ditches 8chan
  • Leaked Boeing 787 code shredded, full of bugs
  • Qualcomm bugs pave path through to Android kernel
  • Microsoft gets Tavis’d
  • More RDP/RDS bugs
  • Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Jake King of CMD. CMD has developed a control layer for Linux systems that restricts account actions, not just by traditional permissions. Jake will be along this week to talk a little bit about EDR on Linux. He saw a nice talk from some IBM X-Forcers at Black Hat about Linux EDR bypasses and that led to a conversation about Linux EDR generally. It’s interesting stuff

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #550 -- CapitalOne owned, Hutchins sentenced, VxWorks horror-show and more!

A big pre-Vegas news week....

Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover:

  • Deep dive on the CapitalOne breach
  • Marcus Hutchins sentenced to time served
  • Telegram voicemail bug leads to political crisis in Brazil
  • Ransomware leaves South Africans without electricity
  • Much, much more

Wolfgang Goerlich is this week’s sponsor guest. He’s an advisory CISO with Duo Security and will be along after this week’s news segment to walk us through Duo’s Trusted Access Report. They’ve got some interesting telemetry to share with us.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Business #549 -- FSB contractor breached, Equifax fined, NSO Group targets cloud

Another huge week of infosec news...

Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover:

  • FSB contractor gets itself a whole lotta owned
  • NSO Group pitches cloud access
  • Hal Martin gets 9 years
  • NSA to launch defensive division
  • Bulgarian breach data exposed
  • DataSpii scandal a 2019 privacy case study
  • Google boots DarkMatter certificates from Chrome and Android
  • Equifax fined $700m
  • Horror show bugs in enterprise VPN concentrators from Palo Alto, Fortinet
  • Microsoft demos ElectionGuard SDK (looks pretty cool)

This week’s sponsor interview is with Casey Ellis of Bugcrowd. We’ll talk about how organisations are increasingly doing bug bounties on technology they use, not just technology they develop. And then we’ll be talking about a new thing Bugcrowd is doing – Bugcrowd for marketplaces.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Ryan Kalember of Proofpoint on "Very Attacked People"

A deep dive on risk scoring your users...

Soap Box isn’t the regular, weekly show we do at Risky.Biz, if you’re looking for that, just scroll one podcast back in your feed or on the Risky Business website.

Soap Box is a fully sponsored podcast series we do where vendors pay to come on and talk about research they’ve done, products they’ve launched, whatever.

This edition of Soap Box is a particularly good one. Ryan Kalember is EVP of cybersecurity strategy at Proofpoint and he’s our guest in this edition. Ryan was on the show a little while back talking about the concept of VAPs – very attacked people. In this interview he’s going to expand on that.

It’s one thing to know that some of your key people are being attacked, but let’s take it one step further. Of those people, who among them is most likely to actually do something like click an untrusted link? What do we know about those users that can tell us how at-risk they are, based on how frequently they’re attacked, and also how likely they are to engage with phishing attempts or dodgy attachments? And if they ARE a risky user, what can you do about that? Measuring risk is only useful if you can do something about it.

Risky Business #548 -- Zoom RCE details and all the week's news

Adam Boileau and Shubham Shah talk news, bugs...

Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover:

  • US mayors agree: no more paying off ransomware crews
  • BitPoint exchange loses $32m in cryptocurrency
  • FinSpy is back, big time
  • Chinese AV companies won’t flag government malware
  • US security companies free to help political campaigns with discounted services, products
  • Facebook to pay $5bn privacy fine with money from its spare pants
  • Much, much more

Assetnote’s Shubham Shah also joins the news segment to dish on the Zoom RCE bug he and his team found back in March.

This week’s sponsor is Kasada, an Australian company that runs a bot filtering service. Kasada is a relatively new company but they’re kicking some pretty serious goals here in Australia and are now pushing into other markets like the USA. But instead of supplying us with one of their people, they suggested we interview one of their customers - REA Group CSO and head of platform Craig Templeton.

REA Group runs, Australia’s biggest real estate listings website. They had all sorts of trouble with content scrapers, bots causing service interruptions, cred stuffing, you name it. In the end they went with Kasada to solve their bot problems and Craig pops by this week to talk about the issues they were having and to sing Kasada’s praises. Getting a reference customer to speak publicly is a Herculean task, so full credit to Kasada for making this one happen. If you operate a website that pushes a lot of traffic you’ll want to hear that interview.

Risky Business #547 -- Zoom-gate, massive GDPR fines, ship hack warnings and more

Zoom is an even bigger trash fire than people realise...

Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover:

  • Zoom’s week from hell
  • BA, Marriott face massive GDPR fines
  • Seth Rich conspiracy originated from Russia’s SVR
  • Coast Guard warns of ship hax
  • Cybercommand issues warning on DDE exploitation
  • PGP ecosystem having a rough time
  • Much, much more!

This week’s show is brought to you by our lovely friends at Signal Sciences. I guess you’d call them a next generation WAF. Signal Sciences co-founder and CTO Zane Lackey will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to plug their new cloud-based WAF product, and also to have a chat about a trend he’s seeing at non-security conferences – more high quality security content.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Cylance talks Persona

Endpoint software that knows you are actually you...

As regular listeners know, this isn’t the weekly Risky Biz news and current affairs show, if you want that, scroll back in the podcast feed to the previous podcast. This is a Soap Box edition, a solely sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky Biz where vendors pay us to come on to the show to talk about, well, whatever they want, really.

We’ve heard Duo Security talking about WebAuthn, we’ve got one with Proofpoint coming up that’s about insights they’ve gleaned from filtering such ridiculous amounts of email.

But in this edition, Garret Grajek from BlackBerry Cylance will be along to talk about its new product, Cylance Persona. This latest product is kinda out of the box, it’s a machine learning classifier that you install on the endpoint that learns what the typical user behaviour looks like. Once the observed user behaviour starts diverging from what’s expected, it can perform actions – like kicking up for 2fa, locking the user out, whatever you want, really.

It’s a novel approach to dealing with compromised endpoints. Two factor authentication is great, but if your endpoints are hosed that doesn’t really count for much. And that’s really what this new gear is about.