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Mythos smythos! How to find 0day with lesser models

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this episode James Wilson chats with Niels Provos about his research into using older AI models to successfully hunt for 0day vulnerabilities. Niels has had a long and prolific career in cybersecurity, having worked as a Distinguished Engineer at Google and then heading up security at Stripe.

His interest in AI bug hunting was piqued recently when one of the Mythos 0day vulnerabilities that received lots of attention happened to be in code he wrote for the OpenBSD project 27 years ago.

It got him thinking: Are these frontier models really that magical? Or could we replicate their findings with some clever orchestration instead of relying on the model’s smarts to find bugs with a single prompt?…

Srsly Risky Biz: After Mythos, US government weighs AI regulation

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about the sudden drive to put regulation around the releases of new AI models because of their cyber security implications. A standardised approach is desirable, but clamping down too hard won’t achieve as much as might be hoped. Experts with older or even open models can get just as far as novices with the latest models.

They also discuss Australia’s new Cyber Incident Review Board. It has been hamstrung and won’t be as successful as it could be because it can’t assign blame.

Risky Business (836): You can't patch the bugpocalypse

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and James Wilson are joined by special guest co-host Brad Arkin. They discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • The US Government says we just have to patch faster, but…
  • Bugs in cPanel, MoveIt and all Linux distributions this week show that patching alone isn’t enough
  • James gets mad about lame AI Agent adoption advice from the US and Australian Governments
  • James Kettle and Niels Provos both showed us that any model can find 0day like Mythos
  • And the cyber-assisted theft of cargo results in an astonishing loss of $725 million dollars

This week’s show is sponsored by SpecterOps. Their CTO, Jared Atkinson, chats to Pat about the big changes in the threat landscape, brought about by AI, that are causing a pivot away from detection and remediation, and toward prevention. …

Between Two Nerds: The wild wild west

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss the breakdown of cyber norms. What would have been an unthinkable cyber operation just a few years ago is now a regular occurrence.

Sponsored: James Kettle built an AI hacker

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this sponsored interview, James Wilson talks with James Kettle and Daf Stuttard from PortSwigger about the incredible research James will unveil at Black Hat US this July, and how that research will be productised into Burp Suite. It shouldn’t be surprising that when James Kettle bolts an LLM into his research methodology that insanely dangerous things happen. This interview is a window into the future of AI-enabled hacking and security testing.

Snake Oilers: Ent AI, Spacewalk and Mondoo

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast three vendors stop by to pitch the audience on their products:

  • Ent AI: Co-founder Brandon Dixon pitched Ent, an intent-aware, AI-powered endpoint security control. https://ent.ai

  • Spacewalk AI: Founders Chris Fuller and Tim Wenzlau pitch Spacewalk, an AI-powered incident response platform. https://www.spacewalk.ai

  • Mondoo: Co-founder Dominik Richter pitches Mondoo, an AI-powered “service as software” in the vulnerability management space. https://mondoo.com

Srsly Risky Biz: US Vows to Fight Distillation Attacks

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and Amberleigh Jack talk about the US government stepping in to fight ‘distillation attacks’ by Chinese AI labs. These are methods used to steal the special sauce of frontier AI models simply by asking questions.

They also discuss the wide-spread shift amongst Chinese threat actors to using botnets for all aspects of their operations. It’s a problem for defenders, but also a disruption opportunity for authorities.

Risky Business (835): Why the Fast16 malware is badass

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and James Wilson are joined by special guest-host Dmitri Alperovitch. They discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • The US government is mad as hell about Chinese firms stealing American AI technology
  • Dmitri has an opinion or two about the US selling Nvidia chips to China
  • Speaking of Chinese AI, Kimi’s new 2.6 is very interesting
  • The US sanctions a Cambodian senator for earning mega bucks through scam compounds
  • And a ransomware family is promoting itself as being … quantum-safe?

This week’s show is sponsored by Trail of Bits. CEO and co-founder Dan Guido chats to Pat about how private inference works and Trail of Bits’ audit of WhatsApp’s private AI setup….

Between Two Nerds: Hackers from the future

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss what the North Korean hack of Drift can tell us about the future of hacking.

Feature Interview: Nicholas Carlini, Anthropic

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this episode, Anthropic’s Nicholas Carlini joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to talk about advancements in AI-driven vulnerability research and exploit development.

Nicholas’ talk at the recent [un]prompted conference demonstrated how Anthropic’s Opus 4.6 could find and exploit vulnerabilities in popular open source projects. In the short few weeks since then, Anthropic announced a new model that’s already identifying hundreds of bug fixes across critical software. Nicholas talks us through the work he does at Anthropic, what’s possible and the limitations with current frontier models, and where this goes from here.