Risky Business Podcast

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and Dmitri Alperovitch discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Russia arrests REvil crew
• Ukraine government hit in messy hacks
• White House hosts open source pow-wow, but is it pointless?
• US cyber reporting law will come back from the dead
• Report: Israeli police targeted activists with NSO but without warrants
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with HD Moore, the founder of Rumble. We’re talking through what how he and his team helped customers respond to the log4j drama. They quickly added the capability to scan customer’s environments for log4shell-affected tech. When asset discovery meets rapid vuln response!

In this edition of the soap box we’re chatting with Steve Miller, a senior researcher at Stairwell. Steve has a long history doing this sort of stuff. He worked inside various bits of the US government doing cyber things, and also spent a decent chunk of his career at Mandiant.

His new employer, Stairwell, makes a platform that collects information about all files present in your environment and let’s you do some fancy stuff with that information. You’ll hear a little bit more about what they do in this interview, but we’re not really talking that much about Stairwell in this interview. It’s more about the evolution of threat intel.

As you’ll hear, Steve said the first iteration of the commercial threat intel space was very much born of govvies jumping out and bringing their thinking with them, but the space is evolving. The take away from this interview is that threat intelligence is more something that you do, not something you just blindly consume.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Katie Nickels and Joe Slowik discuss the week’s security news, including:

• US Government warns of impending critical infrastructure hacks
• Log4j bug in VMWare gets a workout
• Ex Uber CSO Joe Sullivan facing wire fraud charges
• Signal to push ahead on cryptocurrency payments
• Italian literary nerd busted for running one man APT operation
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Okta. Marc Rogers is the executive director of cybersecurity there and he’s joining us this week to talk about the log4j bug and some adjacent issues. He’s working on a paper with IST about the bug and what it all means, and he’s joining us this week to talk about why the log4j drama was different.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:

• The log4j bug wrap
• The ransomware wrap
• The human rights and surveillance industry wrap
• Research and carnage wrap

This week’s show is brought to you by Airlock Digital. They make allowlisting software that has mostly been used in Windows environments, but as you’re about to hear they’ve now got a very, very nice solution for the bigger Linux distros, and their Mac agent is going to be launched in a few weeks.

This isn’t the normal weekly news episode of the show, if you’re looking for the regular weekly Risky Business podcast, scroll one back in your podcast feed. This is a Soap Box edition, a wholly sponsored podcast brought to you in this instance by Thinkst Canary.

For those who don’t know, Thinkst makes hardware and virtual honeypots you can put on your network or into your cloud environments – they’ll start chirping if an attacker interacts with them. They’re a low cost and extremely effective detection tool. But you might not know that Thinkst also operates canarytokens.org where you can go set up a bunch of honeytokens for free. Hundreds of thousands of people are using canarytokens.org, but Thinkst doesn’t charge anything for it, it’s free to use. They’ll even give you a docker container of the whole thing so you can run it yourself.

Our guest today is Thinkst’s founder and infosec legend Haroon Meer. He spent a chunk of his career at the South African security consultancy SensePost before founding Thinkst Applied Research and eventually launching Canary.Tools. In this interview we talk about what the industry is getting wrong, supply chain security, effective detections and more. But I started off by asking him why Thinkst hasn’t tried to monetise canarytokens.org given how many people use it.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:

• NSO Group tools found on US embassy staff phones in Uganda
• Mitto is up to shady bidnez
• Ubiquiti “whistleblower” charged over hack
• Hounds everywhere
• Planned Parenthood breached
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Andrew Morris of Greynoise.

Greynoise has a bunch of sensors out there on the Internets, so they can tell you when and IP that’s hitting you is also hitting everyone else. If you work in a SOC, you know this is very useful. Greynoise has just signed a $30m deal with the US Department of Defense. As Andrew will explain in just a moment, this means if you work in a DoD agency it’s now very easy for you to get a subscription. In this interview I also talk to Andrew about his adventures chasing down one of the people spamming Internet attached receipt printers with the antiwork manifesto from Reddit.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Israel slashes number of countries it will export cyber tools to
• Interpol takes down 1,000 Internet fraudsters
• Ransomware crews lying low?
• When the tabloids do cyber the results are sometimes awesome
• Much, much more…

This week’s sponsor interview is with Ryan Kalember of Proofpoint. He’s the EVP of Cybersecurity Strategy there and he’s joining me this week to talk about how investment activity in cybersecurity is basically leaving everyone who isn’t a mega enterprise behind.

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Apple sues NSO Group and it’s all a bit weird
• Israel charges defence minister’s house cleaner with Iranian hacker collusion (really)
• USA charges two Iranians over “Proud Boy” emails
• Cyber insurers nope out of comprehensive coverage
• Prodaft shells Conti, drops report like it’s a Normal Thing
• Much, much more

This week’s show is sponsored by VMRay. We’ll be chatting with one of VMRay’s customers in this week’s sponsor interview. Jim Byrge works on the CSIRT team at Valvoline, and he’ll be along to talk about how they replaced their ageing, in-house developed SOAR platform with commercial tools. It was still harder than it should be in 2021, but they got there in the end.

In this edition of the Risky Biz Soap Box podcast we chat with Sean Leach, the Chief Product Architect at Fastly, about the history and current status of the DDoS ecosystem. Despite never really making money for criminals, DDoS attacks are still a problem.

CDNs have soaked up a lot of the problem, so DDoS crews are getting creative. Do you know where you’re vulnerable?

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Watering hole attacks are getting much better
• How Israel’s government used NSO to strengthen its diplomatic ties
• Randori sat on some PAN 0day. This is fine.
• Facebook outs state-backed ops
• FBi has unfortunate incident with its mail boxes
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with HD Moore. He’s the founder of Rumble, the network asset discovery scanner, and he’s joining us to talk about some new tricks he’s added to the product, like integrations with cloud service APIs and external discovery products like Censys.