Risky Business Podcast

Analysis and news podcasts published weekly

Risky Business #634 -- Major hacks to shake up Belarusian KGB

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • The United States backing away from “releasing the hounds”
  • Apple has dropped its lawsuit against Corellium
  • “Activists” dox Belarusian security apparatus
  • Another sign hiding IR reports behind legal privilege is looking shaky
  • Apple implements new child protection tech
  • Much, much more

After this week’s news we’ll hear from Matt Cauthorn from ExtraHop Networks in this week’s sponsor interview. We’ll be talking about ransomware hack and leak and about how ransomware crews are losing credibility. You used to be able to actually trust them to just unlock you or keep your data private, but that’s not so much the case anymore.

Risky Business #634 -- Major hacks to shake up Belarusian KGB
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Risky Business #633 -- President grandpa rattles sabre at cloud

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • US President Joe Biden says next shooting war will result from cyber incident
  • The Sun tabloid reports UK government weighing “cyber strike” against Iran
  • Australia, UK and USA release list of most commonly used CVEs
  • NSA drops Kubernetes security guide
  • Much, much more!

This week’s show is brought to you by Cmd Security. It makes what can best be described as a security agent for Linux. It can handle everything from user action restriction to IDR functionality, and Cmd’s co-founder Jake King will be along in this week’s sponsor slot to talk about what he’s seeing out there in Linux land. Jake says there’s a big cloud modernisation push happening right now as people re-architect their “legacy cloud” infrastructure into more modern setups.

Risky Business #633 -- President grandpa rattles sabre at cloud
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Risky Biz Soap Box: VMRay talks about its second line of defence for email security

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this sponsored edition of the Risky Biz Soap Box podcast VMRay’s VP of Products Uriel Cohen joins me to talk about its Email Threat Defender product.

They’ve glued some automated sandbox analysis to their fancy phishing/link analysis/detection tech and they’re pitching it as a secondary control. That means no, they’re not trying to replace big services like Proofpoint or Microsoft’s upper tier filtering, but as a seat belt to catch things that slip the net.

We talk about what they’re trying to do, look at the limitations of static and dynamic detection and talk about all sorts of other stuff too. Enjoy!

Risky Biz Soap Box: VMRay talks about its second line of defence for email security
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Risky Business #632 -- The Kaseya incident wasn't nearly as big as we thought

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • Analysis suggests the Kaseya REvil incident was actually a bit of a fizzer
  • They also obtained a decrypt key and no one knows how
  • EU to follow US Treasury on Bitcoin controls
  • Israeli Government has eyes on NSO fallout
  • PetitPotam Active Directory technique is very bad news
  • Much, much more…

This week’s show is brought to you by Remediant. Remediant makes a PAM solution that’s, well, quite different from the traditional password-vault style solutions. That’s put them in an interesting situation lately with Gartner. Remediant scored an honourable mention as a PAM to take note of, alongside Microsoft, but the thing is they don’t even qualify as a PAM vendor under Gartner’s own criteria. This might mean the analyst firms need to re-jig the way they evaluate and rank tech given there are so many more ways to skin cats these days. Remediant co-founder Paul Lanzi will join me in this week’s sponsor slot to talk through all of that.

Risky Business #632 -- The Kaseya incident wasn't nearly as big as we thought
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Risky Business #631 -- USA and friends send nastygram to China

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • USA and friends send a sternly worded letter
  • NSO group in the news, but parts of the coverage don’t add up
  • Google TAG drops another great post
  • We unveil the details of the earth shattering Kaseya 0day cyberweapon
  • MORE

This week’s show is brought to you by Signal Sciences, which is now a part of Fastly. Instead of booking an interview with one of their staff, they suggested we interview one of their customers – so this week’s sponsor guest is J J Agha, the CISO of Compass, the American real estate website.

He’ll be joining us to talk about his general approach, and yes, Signal Sciences is a part of that, but he’ll speak to automation and orchestration and a bunch of other stuff too.

Risky Business #631 -- USA and friends send nastygram to China
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Risky Biz Feature Podcast: An interview with Rob Joyce

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this podcast we chat with Rob Joyce, the NSA’s Director of Cybersecurity.

As many listeners would know Rob has a pretty interesting resume, having served as a special advisor on cybersecurity to US president Donald Trump, and, before that, leading Tailored Access Operations for NSA. More recently he served as the NSA liaison to Britain’s GCHQ, but he returned to the USA this year to take up his new post as the head of NSA’s defence-oriented Cybersecurity Directorate.

And here’s the thing: Rob is a senior bureaucrat who is genuinely passionate about technology. His con talks are fantastic. He did one on how to make TAO’s life hard in 2016 that was really a blockbuster technical talk, and he’s even done a talk about how to engineer wildly over-the-top Christmas light displays.

I’m telling you this to let you know that, well, Rob is a real, actual security geek. He’s the hacker-bureaucrat, if you will.

Anyway, he generously made himself available to do this interview with us and we covered a bunch of stuff: The terrible state of enterprise security, cloud service providers being dumb with their defaults, the role of the intelligence community in combating ransomware and more. But we started off with some nuts and bolts discussion about what NSA’s cybersecurity directorate actually does. Enjoy!

Risky Biz Feature Podcast: An interview with Rob Joyce
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Risky Business #630 -- We tried the carrot, it's time for the stick

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • REvil takes a vacation
  • Kaseya finally patches VSA
  • Morgan Stanley data exposed by third party Accellion hack
  • CISA issues emergency directive on MS print spooler bug
  • Patrick and Adam dream up ways for the US government to pressure vendors
  • MORE

This week’s show is brought to you by Senetas. They’ve traditionally made layer 2 encryption gear but, as you’ll hear, they’re moving with the times! Senetas CTO Julian Fay joins us this week to talk through a bunch of stuff – what they’ve been working on, a really interesting project they had to abandon because of COVID and the latest news on the move to quantum-resistant crypto.

Risky Business #630 -- We tried the carrot, it's time for the stick
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Risky Business #629 -- Kaseya 0day was utter trash

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • Our take on the REvil attack against Kaseya customers
  • Microsoft’s print spooler bug is a real worry
  • Reports the RNC breached by Russia’s SVR
  • NSA snaps GRU brute forcing efforts
  • Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Material Security, a very interesting startup that has a completely different take on what email security actually is. Material’s co-founder Ryan Noon will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about the cool stuff they’re doing on the analytics side.

Risky Business #629 -- Kaseya 0day was utter trash
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Risky Business #628 -- Microsoft is not your friend

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss recent security news, including:

  • Microsoft reluctantly and belatedly discloses breach
  • Chinese APT suspected of Air India breach
  • JBS paid $11m even though they successfully restored systems
  • cl0p money launderer arrests
  • Ransomware news roundup
  • The latest research and MORE

This week’s show is brought to you by Greynoise. Its founder and CEO, Andrew Morris, joins us this week to talk through some of the work he’s been doing to extend Greynoise’s use cases. It’s a great chat, that one.

Risky Business #628 -- Microsoft is not your friend
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Risky Biz Soap Box: EclecticIQ's CEO Joep Gommers on operationalising threat intelligence

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Aaaaand we’re back on deck! We’re kicking things off this week with this interview with Joep Gommers, the CEO and founder of EclecticIQ. And FYI, in case you didn’t know, these Soap Box podcasts are wholly sponsored.

If your job involves handling threat intel, then I think you’ll really enjoy this conversation. It touches on a bunch of stuff. The first part of this is talking through what EclecticIQ actually offers, currently, then we talk more broadly about operationalising threat intelligence, and finally we talk about EclecticIQ’s new stuff – which include introducing XDR tooling.

Risky Biz Soap Box: EclecticIQ's CEO Joep Gommers on operationalising threat intelligence
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