Risky Business Video
May 12, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Should US spies steal Chinese commercial secrets?
Presented by

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq examine whether the US should steal intellectual property from Chinese companies.
Show notes
- Stewart Baker’s Lawfare article: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/should-american-spies-steal-commercial-secrets
- Bunny Huang’s ‘Essential Guide to Electronics in Shenzhen’: https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2019/essential-guide-to-shenzhen-web-edition/
- BTN44 on the rights and wrongs of intellectual property theft: https://risky.biz/BTN44/
- Corelight sponsor interview with James Pope: https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI82/