In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq look at Department 4 of Bauman Moscow State Technical University where students learn how to hack for the state. Its curriculum is extremely explicit about how the hacking and propaganda operations are relevant to state operations. They discuss whether this is an advantage for Russia’s cyber program and look at what Western intelligence agencies do instead.

Show notes:

• The GRU’s Hogwarts, https://theinsider.ru/en/inv/292314
• Vlodymyr Styran’s substack, https://arunninghacker.substack.com/p/the-cyber-reality-states-dont-want
• BTN92 with Alex Joske, how the MSS became a cyber juggernaut, https://risky.biz/BTN92/