Risky Business Video
June 08, 2026
Between Two Nerds: Nerds at NATO
Presented by
Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq speak at the NATO CyCon conference on Cyber Conflict in Tallinn, Estonia. The pair discuss how cyber operations complement conventional military operations and the past, present and future of cyber conflict.
Show notes: Australia’s Offensive Cyber Capability, https://www.aspi.org.au/report/australias-offensive-cyber-capability/