Risky Business Video
June 29, 2026
Between Two Nerds: How to set cyberspace ablaze
Presented by
Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds, Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss whether cyber organisations should be separated from Signals Intelligence organisations. The Grugq argues that having cyber expertise subordinate to intelligence collection means that many opportunities are never explored.
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