Risky Business Video
December 01, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Beating back state espionage
Presented by
Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq wonder whether it is possible to deter states from cyber espionage with doxxing and other disruption measures.
Show notes:
- MasterCard sponsor interview https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI108/
- Department 40 exposed, https://blog.narimangharib.com/posts/2025%2F11%2F1763938840948?lang=en
- Charming Kitten exposed, https://content.iranintl.com/secret-spy-unit-leads-irans-intel-gathering-for-surveillance-deadly-plots/index.html