Risky Business Podcast

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Soap Box: AI has entered the SOC, and it ain't going anywhere

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Dropzone AI founder Ed Wu about the role of LLMs in the SOC.

The debate about whether AI agents are going to wind up in the SOC is over, they’ve already arrived. But what are they good for? What are they NOT good for? And where else will we see AI popping up in security?

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Soap Box: AI has entered the SOC, and it ain't going anywhere
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Risky Business #795 -- How The Com is hacking Salesforce tenants

Presented by

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news:

  • New York Times gets a little stolen Russian FSB data as a treat
  • iVerify spots possible evidence of iOS exploitation against the Harris-Walz campaign
  • Researcher figures out a trick to get Google account holders’ full names and phone numbers
  • Major US food distributor gets ransomwared
  • The Com’s social engineering of Salesforce app authorisations is a harbinger of our future problems
  • Australian Navy forgets New Zealand has computers, zaps Kiwis with their giant radar.

This week’s episode is sponsored by identity provider Okta. Long-time friend of the show Alex Tilley is Okta’s Global Threat Research Coordinator, and he joins to discuss how organisations can use both human and technical signals to spot North Koreans in their midst.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Risky Business #795 -- How The Com is hacking Salesforce tenants
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Risky Business #794 -- Psychic Panda outgunned by Fluffy Lizard and UNC56728242

Presented by

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news:

  • Cyber firms agree to deconflict and cross-reference hacker group names
  • Russian nuclear facility blueprints gathered from public procurement websites
  • Someone audio deepfaked the White House Chief of Staff, but for the dumbest reasons
  • Germany identifies the Trickbot kingpin
  • Google spots China’s MSS using Calendar events for malware C2
  • Meta apps abuse localhost listeners to track web sessions.

This week’s episode is sponsored by automation vendor Tines. Its Field CISO, Matt Muller, joins the show to discuss an open letter penned by JP Morgan Chase’s CISO that pleads with Software as a Service suppliers to try to suck less at security.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Risky Business #794 -- Psychic Panda outgunned by Fluffy Lizard and UNC56728242
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Risky Business #793 -- Scattered Spider is hijacking MX records

Presented by

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this week’s edition of Risky Business Dmitri Alperovitch and Adam Boileau join Patrick Gray to talk through the week’s news, including:

  • EXCLUSIVE: A Scattered Spider-style crew is hijacking DNS MX entries and compromising enterprises within minutes
  • The SVG format brings the all horrors of HTML+JS to image files, and attackers have noticed
  • Brian Krebs eats a 6.3Tbps DDoS … ‘cause that’s how you demo your packet cannon
  • Law enforcement takes out Lumma Stealer, Qakbot, Danabot and some dark web drug traffickers
  • Iranian behind 2019 Baltimore ransomware mysteriously appears in North Carolina and pleads guilty
  • CISA’s leadership is fleeing in droves, even though the US needs them more than ever.

This week’s episode is sponsored by Thinkst Canary. Long time friend of the show Haroon Meer joins and talks through where he feels the industry is at, having just returned home from the AI-fueled hype at this year’s RSA conference.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Risky Business #793 -- Scattered Spider is hijacking MX records
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Risky Business #792 -- Beware, Coinbase users. Crypto thieves are taking fingers now

Presented by

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news:

  • TeleMessage memory dumps show up on DDoSecrets
  • Coinbase contractor bribed to hand over user data
  • Telegram does seem to be actually cooperating with law enforcement
  • Britain’s legal aid service gets 15 years worth of applicant data stolen
  • Shocking no one, Ivanti were weaseling when they blamed latest bugs on a third party library

This week’s episode is sponsored by Prowler, who make an open source cloud security tool. Founder and original project developer Toni de la Fuente joins to talk through the flexibility that open tooling brings. Prowler is also adding support for SaaS platforms like M365, and of course, an AI assistant to help you write checks!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Risky Business #792 -- Beware, Coinbase users. Crypto thieves are taking fingers now
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Risky Biz Soap Box: Push Security's browser-first twist on identity security

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this wholly sponsored Soap Box edition of the show, Patrick Gray chats with Adam Bateman and Luke Jennings from Push Security.

Push has built an identity security platform that collects identity information and events from your users’ browsers. It can detect phish kits and shut down phishing attempts, protect SSO credentials, and find shadow/personal account that a user has spun up.

It’s extremely difficult to bypass. That’s because when you’re in the browser it doesn’t matter how a phishing link arrives, or how a threat actor has concealed it from your detection stack – if the user sees it, Push sees it.

There are solutions for protecting your users SSO credentials, like passkeys. But what about all the SaaS in your environment? Even if it’s enrolled into your SSO, are you sure that’s how your users are authenticating to it? What about the automation platforms your developers and admins use? What about data platforms like Snowflake? Are your using setting up passkeys for those accounts? How would you know, and what problems can it cause if those accounts are vulnerable?

This is a fun one!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Push Security's browser-first twist on identity security
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Risky Business #791 -- Woof! Copilot for Sharepoint coughs up creds and keys

Presented by

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news:

  • Struggling to find that pesky passwords.xlsx in Sharepoint? Copilot has your back!
  • The ransomware ecosystem is finding life a bit tough lately
  • SAP Netweaver bug being used by Chinese APT crew
  • Academics keep just keep finding CPU side-channel attacks
  • And of course… bugs! Asus, Ivanti, Fortinet… and a Nissan LEAF?

This week’s episode is sponsored by Resourcely, who will soothe your Terraform pains. Founder and CEO Tracis McPeak joins to talk about how to get from a very red dashboard full of cloud problems to a workable future.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Risky Business #791 -- Woof! Copilot for Sharepoint coughs up creds and keys
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Wide World of Cyber: How state adversaries attack security vendors

Presented by

Alex Stamos
Alex Stamos

CISO, Sentinel One

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this edition of the Wide World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray talks to SentinelOne’s Steve Stone and Alex Stamos about how foreign adversaries are targeting security vendors, including them.

From North Korean IT workers to Chinese supply chain attacks, SentinelOne and its competitors are constantly fending off sophisticated hacking campaigns.

This edition of the Wide World of Cyber was recorded in front of a live audience in San Francisco, with Patrick attending via Zoom.

The Wide World of Cyber podcast series is a wholly sponsored co-production between SentinelOne and Risky Business Media.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

Wide World of Cyber: How state adversaries attack security vendors
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Risky Business #790 -- Bye bye Signal-gate, hello TeleMessage-gate

Presented by

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Technology Editor

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news:

  • White House’s off-brand Israeli Signal fork logs cleartext messages with hard coded creds while getting hacked (twice). Just … Wow.
  • Ransomware attacks on UK retailers are linked, and Marks & Spencer has it extra bad
  • After six years dormant, a Magento eCommerce platform backdoor comes to life
  • The North Korean IT worker scam is truly webscale
  • NSO group owes Meta $168m for hacking WhatsApp

This week’s episode is sponsored by vulnerability management wranglers, Nucleus Security. Aaron Unterberger joins to talk through the complexities of tracking vulnerabilities in cloud components - left to the source, right to the deployments, and …sideways into the sidecars?

This week’s show also features an excerpt from Pat’s interview with Senator Mark Warner - Scoot back one in your podcast feed to check out the full chat, or find it on Youtube.

This episode is available on Youtube too.

Risky Business #790 -- Bye bye Signal-gate, hello TeleMessage-gate
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BONUS INTERVIEW: Senator Mark Warner on Signalgate, Volt Typhoon and tariffs

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this extended interview the Vice Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Senator Mark Warner, joins Risky Business host Patrick Gray to talk about:

  • The latest developments in the Signalgate scandal
  • Why America needs to be more aggressive in responding to Volt Typhoon
  • How tariffs are affecting American alliances
  • Why the Five Eyes alliance is sacrosanct

This episode is available on Youtube

BONUS INTERVIEW: Senator Mark Warner on Signalgate, Volt Typhoon and tariffs
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