Risky Business News Podcast

September 23, 2025

Between Two Nerds: How the US can win the cyber war

Presented by

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq look at a new Center for Strategic and International Studies report: A Playbook for Winning the Cyber War.

This episode is also available on YouTube.

Between Two Nerds: How the US can win the cyber war
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