Risky Business News Podcast
April 01, 2025
Between Two Nerds: The 800 pound gorilla
Presented by

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq look at all the strands of evidence that make people think NSA is a top-tier cyber actor.
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Between Two Nerds: The 800 pound gorilla
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